| DAVIDE QUADRIO: Why did you use Yang Ban Xi as a source of inspiration for this opera? Cao Fei: I was fascinated by how Yang Ban Xi constructed a language of “control,” both of movement and politically charged gesture. I wanted to compare this to other ways in which contemporary social and economic systems actually control us . I thought that Yang Ban Xi was a great way for communicating the universal principle of social control that also characterizes the consumerist society that “RMB city” represents and destroys at the same time. DQ: Does “RMB city” describe a world of the possible future? CF: Second Life was created in the last century. As Hu Fang said, “RMB city” is more connected to the idea of the past/future, both in its aesthetics and representations where buildings, elements and structures are sort of “remains” of the recent past/present time. In the video making of RMB city you can see the city while it is being built, with all the buildings that represent cities like Hong Kong and Shanghai, or other aspects of material culture that made China, my country, such a syncretic experimental place. DQ: Picking up on this, what are the inspirations for your creations in “RMB City” and particularly for this new opera? CF: I used high and low culture. Pop culture is what I experienced in the ’90s and pop music is indeed so universal as to effi ciently reach everybody. Of course I am able to combine it with complicated narratives that I build in the virtual stage. RMB City Opera is not based on cartoon animation but real recorded interactions between the characters appearing both in the virtual and physical stages. The huge images projected on stage filled all the space, and yet the two actors physically present were sometimes the center and sometimes the background of the action. DQ: Is this opera opening a new chapter of possible experimentation for “RMB city”? CF: When we started working on this project I was unsure about how to “transport” the density of “RMB City” to the stage. I thought this was going to be a very intriguing experience, and we will see if this interaction between different realities can progress. | 
